Pagan Religions

(Darphbobo/84193) Re: Tarot or Tarocchi Deck

Darphbobo@rss.iscabbs.com — Sat, 24 Dec 2011 10:36:00 -0600

Re: Tarot or Tarocchi Deck
We did some background on it and it is from Austria and from the mid 1800's I
am scanning them in. I will probably have a post here and in antiquities. I am
trying to get some really high res images so i can do some clean up.

Also the British museum confirmed with us the age approximate and where they
are from. :) No dealers in my area will even touch trying to give us an
estimate but they are willing to offer us money... so me thinks good things.

(Faunus/84192) Dunno. Different blot maybe? The text says this one wasn't real...

Faunus@rss.iscabbs.com — Thu, 22 Dec 2011 06:45:00 -0600


Dunno. Different blot maybe?  The text says this one wasn't real anyway....

(Gwynn/84191) I thought it was alfrblott anyway? I'm pretty sure there's a rec...

Gwynn@rss.iscabbs.com — Thu, 22 Dec 2011 06:37:00 -0600

I thought it was alfrblott anyway? I'm pretty sure there's a record somewhere
where a Christian missionary bitches because an old woman won't let him stay
the night, because she says it's the feast of the elves, basically, and having
a Christian in the house might totally offend them. Can't remember where it
was, country, or where I read it though, probably Myths and Symbols in Pagan
Europe though, if I had to guess.

(Faunus/84190) Happy Midvinterblot! Have a cool painting of an apocrphyal paga...

Faunus@rss.iscabbs.com — Thu, 22 Dec 2011 05:48:00 -0600

Happy Midvinterblot!  Have a cool painting of an apocrphyal pagan
ritual.

http://mydelineatedlife.blogspot.com/2011/12/midvinterblot_22.html

(copying the text here....)

Midvinterblot

Good Winter Solstice to you. To those of you in the Northern
Hemisphere, may your daylight grow longer and warmer.

This painting, by Carl Larsson, showing a Winter Solstice sacrifice,
was intended for the Stockholm National Museum. It was meant to
present a winter motif from heathen times, and was named Midvinterblot
-- 'blot' being an ancient term for a sacrificial ceremony.

The artist explained: "Here a king is being sacrificed for the weal of
the people (to ensure a good harvest year). He was drowned in the
sacred well at the root of the tree . . ."

The idea of the sacrifice appealed to Larsson--showing a king who
tosses his furs aside and in nakedness stands ready to die voluntarily
for the good of his people.

The problem was that no such event was to be found recorded in any
historical resource, causing the painting to be a source of negative
controversy.

(Peccavimus/84189) I'm pretty knowledgeable about the tarot, and if you could scan ...

Peccavimus@rss.iscabbs.com — Thu, 15 Dec 2011 09:28:00 -0600

I'm pretty knowledgeable about the tarot, and if you could scan the images I
might be able to place it, although an antique dealer or appraiser would be
better at that.  A particularly important card to scan, if it is included, is
the Ace of Coins.  That often contains hints as to the identity of the artist,
as well as the patron.

(Vanity/84188) It should be easy for a competent antiques dealer to determine i...

Vanity@rss.iscabbs.com — Thu, 15 Dec 2011 06:47:00 -0600

   It should be easy for a competent antiques dealer to determine its date
simply from the design.  In addition to keeping it out of sunlight, you will
want to keep it in a very dry place (to avoid damage from moisture and mildew)
make sure there are no small insects on it (any kind of paper can be food to
all sorts of tiny bugs) and keep it in a sealed container to keep insects from
getting at it.  Depending on the age, it might be of interest to a museum; if
it's 18th century or later, there are probably many extant copies (though it's
possible that yours is a rare deck) and it will either be something that you
can sell on the antiques market or something that you can keep and enjoy
looking at from time to time.  As Faunus said, making a visual record of it for
its artistic and historical value would also be a contribution.

(Faunus/84187) Do take it to an antiques forum. Also, if you can do so safely,...

Faunus@rss.iscabbs.com — Thu, 15 Dec 2011 05:13:00 -0600

Do take it to an antiques forum.  Also, if you can do so safely, SCAN THAT
SHIT!  FOR SCIENCE!  It's out of copyright obviously so you could put the scans
on archive.org or something, for historical value.  That'd rock.

(Darphbobo/84186) I have come into possession of a incredibly old Tarocchi deck (t...

Darphbobo@rss.iscabbs.com — Thu, 15 Dec 2011 05:08:00 -0600

I have come into possession of a incredibly old Tarocchi deck (the original
card game). It is very aged and I was wondering if anyone knew of someone that
a) we could it appraised to confirm or deny what it is and b) get it restored.
I can't see a date on it but I can't make it out. Currently we have it in a
wrapping and out of sunlight. Correctoin I can see a date but can't make it
out. Any thoughts or help i figured I would check here before going to an
antiques forum.

(Knight Of Shadows/84185) Similar to a crystal, you can ground that into the earth, too.

Knight Of Shadows@rss.iscabbs.com — Mon, 14 Nov 2011 06:27:00 -0600

Similar to a crystal, you can ground that into the earth, too.

(Gwynn/84184) Healer:

Gwynn@rss.iscabbs.com — Fri, 11 Nov 2011 13:09:00 -0600

Healer:

Sure. Get a crystal, pump it into that. Play some music if you're inclined to
that, release it that way. Alternatively, you might just have to deal with it.
I've always been of the opinion that getting rid of the other persons pain is
the most important thing if I decide to heal them, so I don't worry so much
about drawing their pain into me. Oh, pray toe the gods, goddess, Etc. to help
you get rid of it.

(-- anonymous -- <>/84183) so i did a healing today for a friend. i didn't prepare enough ...

Fri, 11 Nov 2011 11:10:14 -0600

so i did a healing today for a friend.  i didn't prepare enough ahead of time
and wound up accidentally drawing his pain into me instead of pulling it out
and releasing it.  any suggestions for dumping it back out?
call me healer

(Faunus/84182) Nice!

Faunus@rss.iscabbs.com — Tue, 08 Nov 2011 04:14:00 -0600

Nice!

(Vanity/84181) I don't know if this is of any interest, but I just found the fo...

Vanity@rss.iscabbs.com — Mon, 07 Nov 2011 17:52:00 -0600

    I don't know if this is of any interest, but I just found the following
Neo-Latin names for the Major Arcana of the Tarot, attributed to one Senftleben
in the early 17th century.  The order and the names are slightly altered from
what is now considered traditional.
Stultus (=The Fool)
I. Minimus (=The Magician/Mountebank) literally "the least", I suppose because
it is the lowest-valued card.
II. Imperatrix (=The Empress)
III. Imperator (=The Emperor)
IV. Papissa (=The High Priestess) literally "the Popess"
V. Summus Pontifex (=The Hierophant): "Highest Pontiff"
VI. Temperantia (=Temperance)
VII. Currus (=The Chariot)
VIII. Amor (=The Lovers): "Love"
IX. Propugnaculum (=Strength): "Defense"
X. Rota Fortunae (=Wheel of Fortune)
XI. Senex (=The Hermit) "Old Man"
XII. Patibulum (=The Hanged Man) "Gallows"
XIII. Mors (=Death)
XIV. Diabolus (=The Devil)
XV. Ignis (=The Tower) "Fire"
XVI. Stella (=The Star)
XVII. Luna (=The Moon)
XVIII. Sol (=The Sun)
XIX. Angelus (=Judgement) "Angel"
XX. Justicia (=Justice)
XXI. Mundus (=The World)
   This particular order seems to go back at least to the mid-16th century.

(Mama K/84180) A happy and blessed Samhain to you all!!!

Mama K@rss.iscabbs.com — Mon, 31 Oct 2011 13:51:00 -0500

A happy and blessed Samhain to you all!!!

(Faunus/84179) Mmmm.... tasty, tasty Hathor....

Faunus@rss.iscabbs.com — Wed, 28 Sep 2011 06:22:00 -0500


Mmmm.... tasty, tasty Hathor....

(Peccavimus/84178) You mean, not a deliberate evocation of Hathor?

Peccavimus@rss.iscabbs.com — Wed, 28 Sep 2011 06:22:00 -0500

You mean, not a deliberate evocation of Hathor?

(Faunus/84177) I think they were just going for a "shitty Robert E Howard knock...

Faunus@rss.iscabbs.com — Wed, 28 Sep 2011 06:21:00 -0500

I think they were just going for a "shitty Robert E Howard knockoff" vibe
there. :)

(Peccavimus/84176) Wow, I guess they have no idea what a golden cow symbolises to a...

Peccavimus@rss.iscabbs.com — Wed, 28 Sep 2011 06:19:00 -0500

Wow, I guess they have no idea what a golden cow symbolises to a lot of
religions, eh?

(Giraffe/84175) I thought Britt Ekland dancing nude in The Wicker Man was suffic...

Giraffe@rss.iscabbs.com — Wed, 28 Sep 2011 03:05:00 -0500

I thought Britt Ekland dancing nude in The Wicker Man was sufficient to make
most men and some women go pagan.

(Faunus/84174) OK, I'm Pagan now. I've found my path.

Faunus@rss.iscabbs.com — Tue, 27 Sep 2011 20:18:00 -0500


OK, I'm Pagan now.  I've found my path.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_waWLie5x0

(Mama K/84173 Forum Moderator) Sraosa will be watching the forum while I'm moving this weekend.

Mama K@rss.iscabbs.com — Fri, 16 Sep 2011 10:11:00 -0500

Sraosa will be watching the forum while I'm moving this weekend.

(Faunus/84172) MoonToad beat me to it.

Faunus@rss.iscabbs.com — Mon, 12 Sep 2011 14:04:00 -0500

MoonToad beat me to it.

(MoonToad/84171) Maybe he should be calling up a skunk ape instead, see if that w...

MoonToad@rss.iscabbs.com — Mon, 12 Sep 2011 13:40:00 -0500

Maybe he should be calling up a skunk ape instead, see if that works any
better!

(Vanity/84170) "Summon a sasquatch?" The first thing I'd try is calling out "H...

Vanity@rss.iscabbs.com — Mon, 12 Sep 2011 12:22:00 -0500

   "Summon a sasquatch?"  The first thing I'd try is calling out "Here,
sasquatch!" and see how that works.
   The guy doesn't seem quite clear on whether the sasquatch is a real beast,
or a sort of magical phantom.  I mean, try inserting the words "ghost of a" in
front of "sasquatch" and see if it doesn't make at least as much, if not more
sense.
   Who says that sasquatches have any "woodlore"?  Wouldn't you get your
woodlore just as easily from some of these mountain men as from the (ghost of
a) sasquatch?  And just how much are you going to be able to learn while drunk
and high on marijuana?  Or does "lore" not really mean "learning", but rather
some ineffable "force" that you would absorb even better while stoned?
   And last, aren't sasquatches reported from the Pacific northwest, not from
the deep South?

(Peccavimus/84169) I just adore the line "I have some questions though." I mean, s...

Peccavimus@rss.iscabbs.com — Mon, 12 Sep 2011 11:43:00 -0500

I just adore the line "I have some questions though."  I mean, seriously: the
assumptions behind that admission of uncertainty are all delightful.

(Faunus/84168) Followup comments:

Faunus@rss.iscabbs.com — Mon, 12 Sep 2011 06:41:00 -0500


Followup comments:

Tibetan_Sorceror:

      I wouldn't use the goetic technique, it just doesn't fit well
      with Sasquatch.

Original Poster:

      What about Native American language as a replacement for
      barbarous tongues?

DediniSatyr:

      Any Native American language in particular? Or will you just be
      yelling random words originating in various Native American
      languages?

      "Gitchee Gumee! Koyaanisqatsi! Kemo Sabe! We're the Fakawi"?

      Cause that would take the ritual to a whole new level. Give that
      a shot and report back to us how it goes."

(Faunus/84167) Best Reddit post of the week.

Faunus@rss.iscabbs.com — Mon, 12 Sep 2011 06:30:00 -0500


Best Reddit post of the week.

http://www.reddit.com/r/occult/comments/kbcyt/using_the_goetia_for_summoning_sa
squatch/

http://tinyurl.com/42ue6b8

Quoting the post:

===========

Hey guys.

Me and some friends of mine are thinking about going deep in the woods
of the Southern United States to have some beer and smoke some
weed. It's pretty deep in there but I think there will be some
hillbilly folk that will be able to hear us.

What I want to do is use the preliminary evocation of the Goetia to
summon a Sasquatch so that he may pass on his wood lore to me. I have
some questions though.

1) Would the Goetia be appropriate for summoning a Sasquatch.

2) Is it really a good idea to go out in the middle of the woods at
night and possibly get shot by a hillbilly for worshiping the devil?

3) What is your experience with Sasquatch.

I have also grown interested in using Cherokee Indian arrowheads as
dream talismans and would be open to using Native American belief
systems for raising a Sasquatch. Holla at me.

(Mama K/84166) Prayers and energies coming your way.

Mama K@rss.iscabbs.com — Sun, 11 Sep 2011 11:22:00 -0500

Prayers and energies coming your way.

I'll put out a request, too....I'm having a very challenging time finding a
place to live, and have to be out of my current place this coming Saturday.  I
_think_ I have a place almost 9 hours away....just don't know for sure yet.
And getting there may be challenging.  Please pray, send energies, light
candles, etc.  THanks.

(Peccavimus/84165) I could use a few prayer, energy, and the like for the rest of t...

Peccavimus@rss.iscabbs.com — Sat, 10 Sep 2011 19:58:00 -0500

I could use a few prayer, energy, and the like for the rest of the month, if
people have the time and spare effort.  I'm up for tenure this month, and while
I've taken ti fairly stoicly thus far, I'm a bit afraid.  I'll take whatever
help I can get.

(Gwynn/84164) From the end of the article, after the reporter talks to people ...

Gwynn@rss.iscabbs.com — Mon, 29 Aug 2011 21:37:00 -0500

From the end of the article, after the reporter talks to people who communicate
with trees: In leaving Ott and his father I get the impression that, although
many Estonians love the nature around them and want to protect it, it is also
true that
a minority take things to the extremes of Ott and his father.

Wow, so animism is extreme huh? Who knew! Let's see, I wasn't even trying, so
how can I get more xtreme? Anybody got a stone hatchet and some woad? Maybe I
could go brandish it at people and threaten to let the devils loose from out of
their skulls. Good holy gods.

(Vanity/84163) http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14635021

Vanity@rss.iscabbs.com — Fri, 26 Aug 2011 10:39:00 -0500

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14635021

News story about religion (or the lack of religion) in Estonia (a Baltic
country just south of Finland), including a large section about Estonian
paganism.

(Gwynn/84162) Why is this even a question? I mean, it's not like it's some dee...

Gwynn@rss.iscabbs.com — Tue, 26 Jul 2011 09:26:00 -0500

Why is this even a question? I mean, it's not like it's some deep dark mystery
or something. I'm pretty sure most religions pray for the same basic reasons.
Except for me. I pray because I want to see Great Cthulhu rise, and because he
told me that if I don't, he'll blast my mind into gibbering insanity. Yeah,
rock on.

Oh no wait, I pray for pretty much the same reasons MK gave, if not in the same
way. Actually, my prayers tend to be less about asking for stuff, and more
about acknowledging or communicating with the universe. But then, as an animist
into music, what can you expect really? But I mean, yeah, Christians are
thankful to their god, I'm thankful to my gods. I get nice days and cloudy days
and warm days and cold days, and every morning I wake up, I'm still alive. I've
got people I love around me. It's a nice deal, so be thankful, even if it's not
to a god or gods. Seems pretty simple.

(Mama K/84161) Ok, answering my own questions from earlier.....

Mama K@rss.iscabbs.com — Mon, 25 Jul 2011 18:02:00 -0500

Ok, answering my own questions from earlier.....

Prayer for me is talking to A) the Universe, and B) my spirit guides.
Sometimes, I'm offering thanks.  Sometimes, asking for guidance, help, or a
specific outcome for a situation.  Often the specific outcome request is more
in the form of an affirmation than a plea.  I expect the results I ask for (or
affirm that I am receiving).  And I get them  =)

(Mama K/84160) Questions for discussion....courtesy of a thread in that other r...

Mama K@rss.iscabbs.com — Mon, 25 Jul 2011 09:29:00 -0500

Questions for discussion....courtesy of a thread in that other religion forum
:)

What is prayer? Why do you pray? What results do you expect when you pray? What
results do you get?

(I will answer my own questions later, when I can type with all ten fingers,
rather than just my thumbnails.)

(Faunus/84159) Clearly the man has taste. :)

Faunus@rss.iscabbs.com — Fri, 01 Jul 2011 18:53:00 -0500

Clearly the man has taste. :)

(Mama K/84158) Woohoo!!!

Mama K@rss.iscabbs.com — Fri, 01 Jul 2011 18:31:00 -0500

Woohoo!!!

(Peccavimus/84157) He seems like a cool guy. I've only ever spoken to him online, ...

Peccavimus@rss.iscabbs.com — Fri, 01 Jul 2011 18:22:00 -0500

He seems like a cool guy.  I've only ever spoken to him online, but he said
nice things about my book in his newest edition of Modern Magick.

(Lammam P Yrruf/84156) (amusingly, the headshot he still uses in advertisements is at l...

Lammam P Yrruf@rss.iscabbs.com — Fri, 01 Jul 2011 17:52:00 -0500

(amusingly, the headshot he still uses in advertisements is at least 20 years
old)

(Lammam P Yrruf/84155) Went to a book signing with Donald Michael Kraig tonight. He ga...

Lammam P Yrruf@rss.iscabbs.com — Fri, 01 Jul 2011 17:48:00 -0500

Went to a book signing with Donald Michael Kraig tonight.  He gave a little
talk, mostly filled with teasers for a 30-dollar class he's giving tomorrow.

Charming fella; Don't know that I'd pay for the class, but it was certainly
worth my time to sit and talk with him and a few others gathered tonight.

(Mama K/84154) Y'all please send strength and serenity my way this afternoon. I...

Mama K@rss.iscabbs.com — Tue, 28 Jun 2011 05:58:00 -0500

Y'all please send strength and serenity my way this afternoon. I've been asked
to testify in an order of protection hearing, and I'm seriously stressing out.
Haven't been able to meditatre for three days. Thanks.

(Gwynn/84153) I forgot about the Greek Magical Papyri, I even have that, thank...

Gwynn@rss.iscabbs.com — Thu, 02 Jun 2011 12:20:00 -0500

I forgot about the Greek Magical Papyri, I even have that, thanks to Hooligan.
Huh, maybe after I scan the Complete fiction of H. P. Lovecraft, I'll scan
that. Gonna be a while though, since HPL is over a thousand pages. Is there any
of it online, perchance? Guess I'll have to google for it.

(Peccavimus/84152) The general renaissance attitude was that magic required three t...

Peccavimus@rss.iscabbs.com — Thu, 02 Jun 2011 11:38:00 -0500

The general renaissance attitude was that magic required three things: things
seen or visualized (phantasms), words spoken in invocation, and movement or
gesture.  Often, grimoires just contain two fo the three.

(Faunus/84151) The Magical Papyri are chock full of long strings of vowels that...

Faunus@rss.iscabbs.com — Thu, 02 Jun 2011 11:27:00 -0500

The Magical Papyri are chock full of long strings of vowels that are presumably
supposed to be sung or ululated....

(Gwynn/84150) I'm currently reading a book on the history of grimoires. Intere...

Gwynn@rss.iscabbs.com — Thu, 02 Jun 2011 11:07:00 -0500

I'm currently reading a book on the history of grimoires. Interesting stuff,
but something occurs to me. Of course they have all kinds of symbols, and draw
these things and write these characters and ...

Do we have any books largely concerned with speaking things? Words have power,
so I'm wondering if there's anything out there without all the elaborate visual
rigmarole. I'm sure there is, I just can't think of anything right at the
moment. Anybody wanna recommend anything? Hell it's probably even online
somewhere too, by this point. This comes close.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/ame/pow/index.htm

OTOH, though I'm unlikely to need to cure horses of anything, shitting on some
twigs isn't really that appealing. I dunno, I just want something different,
you know? Less demons and Hebrew characters and whatever, more, say blah or
sing or play something, whatever. I know this stuff's out there, the question
is, did it ever get written down? Here's maybe something like what I'm after,
only, you know, with directions and such, i.e. something usable. And probably
in English, heh. Yes I know this is a translation, but I don't speak FInnish
and I assume you'd want the original if you were going to do it.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/ms1/index.htm
http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/ms2/index.htm

(Gwynn/84149) Since we were talking about meditation and all, I thought I'd gi...

Gwynn@rss.iscabbs.com — Sat, 21 May 2011 09:13:00 -0500

Since we were talking about meditation and all, I thought I'd give an example
of purely musical meditation. My favorite kantele player, Arja Kastinen, has a
youtube channel, and she plays in the old way. Here's her youtube channel.

http://www.youtube.com/arjakastinen

She's posting an improvization a month. Notice how the current improvization
starts out very simply, and stays with that for a good while before getting
more complicated. I point this out because the big objection I hear with people
and music is that they can't play, which seems to mean, I'm not good enough to
go perform, well so what? I say if you find three notes you like, play those,
it's your music after all, not anybody else's. Here's her explanation of her
playing style.

http://www.temps.fi/temps/?s=eng-meditative-kantele

For my next trick, maybe I'll dig up some animist stuff, assuming everybody's
not bored to tears.

(Artemis/84148) The more you meditate on a regular basis, at the same time, in t...

Artemis@rss.iscabbs.com — Tue, 17 May 2011 10:47:00 -0500

The more you meditate on a regular basis, at the same time, in the same spot,
under the same conditions if possible, the more your brain will be trained to
relax. It's just like learning anything new, it takes practice :) What used to
work for me (I don't need it anymore) was something my yoga teacher taught me
and that was to envision something of your choosing to "strike" or "Erase" the
thoughts that came into your mind. So say you are trying to meditate and "shit,
I forgot to get chicken for dinner" comes to mind. you acknowledge the thought,
and then remove it by using something visual. In my case I pictured a lightning
bolt zapping the thought it would be gone. To start, I had to do that
constantly, and it seemed very pointless, as I didn't feel I was meditating at
all. But it got increasinly less until it rarely happened and then "true"
meditation got a lot easier. But, like anything, it takes training your brain
to get to that state. Learning how to do it is so very good for you, and helps
you maintain your sanity and stress levels immensely. Don't give up, give it
time, even if you dont' feel like anything is happening.

(Smoke Eater/84147) Perhaps a white noise generator?

Smoke Eater@rss.iscabbs.com — Tue, 17 May 2011 09:07:00 -0500

Perhaps a white noise generator?

(Knight Of Shadows/84146) I find Peter Gabriel's Passion helps me to meditate. Not quite ...

Knight Of Shadows@rss.iscabbs.com — Tue, 17 May 2011 08:44:00 -0500

I find Peter Gabriel's Passion helps me to meditate.  Not quite sure why that
works for me, but it's one of the best tools I have ever found.

(Gwynn/84145) Mama K:

Gwynn@rss.iscabbs.com — Tue, 17 May 2011 07:50:00 -0500

Mama K:

Have you tried music, or sound? One thing I've noticed, I read this somewhere
or other and it seems to be true for me, is that a singing bowl can stop the
inner dialogue. Now I'm not saying, go buy a singing bowl, try one in a store
if you've got one that sells them. They're a bit expensive, depending on size,
and you'll find that different bowls work differently for you, and you might
need a bit to get the hang of them, if you've never played one before.

Basically what you do is run the stick around the bowl in a circle, until it
starts vibrating. You can also it in a small arc along the bowl, particularly
once it's started going. In general, I favor bowls with more complex sounds, as
opposed to some of the crystal ones that do a very loud tone which is
impressive at first, but it has no depth. A good singing bowl, IMO, will have
different kinds of sounds, a deeper tone, higher ringing sounds, Etc, though it
might take a bit of attention to hear these.

If you don't want to spend any money, or don't have it in the first place,
there's always something like mantras of course. I mentioned the singing bowls
though because they do kind of grab ahold of you and give you something to
focus on, through both touch and hering. For me it's something that I can fall
into pretty quickly. Obviously, like all ritual items, they're completely
unnecessary, so it just depends on whether that works for you or not.

(Mr Tinkertrain/84144) so apparently Satanists are either hidden or non-existant here i...

Mr Tinkertrain@rss.iscabbs.com — Tue, 17 May 2011 07:46:00 -0500

so apparently Satanists are either hidden or non-existant here int he middle of
the country.

I put a Craiglist ad up to advertise looking for a Satanic woman for intimate
dealings, but nary a response.

Are tehre any Satanic key-words or "inside information" that I could throw up
in an ad so that they don't think I'm spamming or just some weirdo? (even tho
I'm a weirdo)  Maybe a phrase or something?

I think Satanic women are hot!

(Vanity/84143) Try to find a quiet space to meditate, and listen -- to the quie...

Vanity@rss.iscabbs.com — Tue, 17 May 2011 06:51:00 -0500

   Try to find a quiet space to meditate, and listen -- to the quiet around
you, to the sounds of your own body, and the sounds of your mind.  Chaotic
thoughts will come up, but you shouldn't try to fight them or suppress them --
just note that they're there, one at a time, and let them go.  Don't try to
hold on to them, or follow them, or analyze them or spend time thinking about
them.  Just be an observer -- here's this thought, okay, now I know it's there,
now back to listening.
   If you spend time *counting* your breaths, you may get caught up in the
counting.  Don't bother with numbers -- just note that the breaths are there,
in, out, in, out, and listen to them -- but don't spend time thinking about the
breathing.
   I hope that works for you -- if not, then try something else!  Not everybody
works the same way.

(Mama K/84141) For those of y'all who meditate, how do you focus when your brai...

Mama K@rss.iscabbs.com — Tue, 17 May 2011 06:25:00 -0500

For those of y'all who meditate, how do you focus when your brain is so
overloaded and overwhelmed with chaos? I'm in a difficult living situation, and
need more than ever to meditate. My normal tricks of counting my breaths,
saying internally "cancel, clear," saying internally "NOW," and focusing on
growing a ball of white light around me are not working. Any suggestions?

(Bodhi Dharma/84140) Thank you, Gwynn.

Bodhi Dharma@rss.iscabbs.com — Fri, 06 May 2011 13:24:00 -0500

Thank you, Gwynn.
anything (text, audio, or video) would be fine.

(Gwynn/84139) Here's audio of talks on different meditation techniques. I thou...

Gwynn@rss.iscabbs.com — Thu, 05 May 2011 19:43:00 -0500

Here's audio of talks on different meditation techniques. I thought since it
has a selection, it might be more useful, and if you've got a portable playing
gadget, a good number of them seem to be mp3 files.

http://www.buddhanet.net/audio-meditation.htm

P.S.

I do believe vipassana is what they're calling insight meditation, unless I've
severely forgotten my Buddhism. Meta is loving Kindness, which they also
mention.

(Gwynn/84138) What works better for you Bodhi, text, audio, or video? I'll dig...

Gwynn@rss.iscabbs.com — Thu, 05 May 2011 19:17:00 -0500

What works better for you Bodhi, text, audio, or video? I'll dig something up.

(Peccavimus/84137) I am sorry to hear that you are in so much pain.

Peccavimus@rss.iscabbs.com — Thu, 05 May 2011 18:11:00 -0500

I am sorry to hear that you are in so much pain.

(Bodhi Dharma/84136) I started off by asking for some spiritual strength. The major ...

Bodhi Dharma@rss.iscabbs.com — Thu, 05 May 2011 17:20:00 -0500

I started off by asking for some spiritual strength.  The major nerve in my leg
has been disintegrating for months and I'm already on the maximum dose
allowable of several drugs to help me deal with this.  I'm not at my fullest
ability to focus mentally and, yes, there was a time when I knew as much about
eastern meditation as Peccavimus does.  I'm having trouble recalling that
information now.  My mental clarity is just a little off.
So, I'm just a bit ticked off that when I ask something simple like "how does
one practice Vipassana meditation", I'm told to do a Google search.  If I
wanted and was able, right now, to scroll through hundreds of web links in
order to find the one written by somebody who actually knows what the hell he's
talking about, I wouldn't have asked the question in the first place.

(Gwynn/84135) Then you'd want to try mindfulness meditation.

Gwynn@rss.iscabbs.com — Thu, 05 May 2011 17:02:00 -0500

Then you'd want to try mindfulness meditation.

Just FYI, I have very mixed results doing divination for myself as well, but
usually when I do it for others, it's useful. So YMMV. And if you're into
music, there's always mantra meditation, of course. IMO I've found a key to
good divination is to get into a bit of trance, but meditation would do it too
I'd bet, yeah. Basically you gotta get a little messed up, if that makes sense.
It's kind of like you draw inward but push outward at the same time. I'm trying
to think of a good analogy.

OK, have you ever been in the woods, or on a mountain, something like that? And
if you get just really quiet, you're kind of aware of yourself, but at the same
time you're kind of aware of all the other stuff? Like your awareness is going
outward, expanding? That's kind of what I'm talking about. Of course, if you've
never felt that you'll have no idea what I'm talking about, but ...

(Peccavimus/84134) The point of meditation is not to clear the mind. It's just to ...

Peccavimus@rss.iscabbs.com — Thu, 05 May 2011 17:05:00 -0500

The point of meditation is not to clear the mind.  It's just to not cling to
what comes into the mind.  So something arises that pisses you off.  you notice
it, and then let it go and let the next thing occur to you, then let that go
and let the next thing . . . and so on.  Eventually this will have the effect
of slowing the rush of thoughts.

(Mr Tinkertrain/84133) i've tried meditation but I can't clear my mind.. I keep thinkin...

Mr Tinkertrain@rss.iscabbs.com — Thu, 05 May 2011 16:59:00 -0500

i've tried meditation but I can't clear my mind.. I keep thinking of things
that piss me off

(-- anonymous -- <>/84132) http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Vipassana+meditation

Thu, 05 May 2011 17:00:13 -0500

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Vipassana+meditation

(Bodhi Dharma/84131) and how, exactly, does one practice Vipassana meditation?

Bodhi Dharma@rss.iscabbs.com — Thu, 05 May 2011 16:43:00 -0500

and how, exactly, does one practice Vipassana meditation?

(Peccavimus/84130) I would second that, although I would eschew guided meditation f...

Peccavimus@rss.iscabbs.com — Thu, 05 May 2011 16:09:00 -0500

I would second that, although I would eschew guided meditation for now and
focus on insight or Vipassana meditation.

(Mama K/84129) Meditate. Then meditate. Then meditate some more. After you'r...

Mama K@rss.iscabbs.com — Thu, 05 May 2011 16:00:00 -0500

Meditate.  Then meditate.  Then meditate some more.  After you're done,
meditate.  For good measure, meditate more.

Meditate every day.  There are a metric fuckton of guided meditations floating
around teh interwebz.  Take your pick.  Learn to listen to that still small
voice inside you....call it the voice of <insert diety name here>, call it a
spirit guide, call it a guardian angel, whatever.  Listen to it.  I have a lot
of good results with tarot cards, runes, and a pendulum.  There are eleventy-
pepsi methods of divination.....again, take your pick.

(Bodhi Dharma/84128) I don't. Magic isn't something I've ever had luck doing on my o...

Bodhi Dharma@rss.iscabbs.com — Thu, 05 May 2011 15:36:00 -0500

I don't.  Magic isn't something I've ever had luck doing on my own.

(Peccavimus/84127) Well, that's the whole purpose of divination. Do you practice a...

Peccavimus@rss.iscabbs.com — Thu, 05 May 2011 15:34:00 -0500

Well, that's the whole purpose of divination.  Do you practice any form of
divination?

(Bodhi Dharma/84126) Speaking of trying to get things with magic..

Bodhi Dharma@rss.iscabbs.com — Thu, 05 May 2011 15:17:00 -0500

Speaking of trying to get things with magic..
My spine/leg is getting bad again.  I could really use more spiritual strength
to deal with it.
Also, I'm starting to believe that God is trying to tell me something.  The
reason my life has been as sucktastic as it has been in the last year is that
I'm not following the right path/will of God.  I could use some great big
billboard sign saying "this is the will of God" with a huge, flashy, neon
blinking arrow.
Got any spells for those things?

(Peccavimus/84125) Well, nothing comes from nothing. You might get a million dolla...

Peccavimus@rss.iscabbs.com — Thu, 05 May 2011 13:37:00 -0500

Well, nothing comes from nothing.  You might get a million dollars, but only
for fair value.  TANSTAAFL

(Mr Tinkertrain/84124) Pecc, i was only semi-joking around. I really want millions of ...

Mr Tinkertrain@rss.iscabbs.com — Thu, 05 May 2011 06:40:00 -0500

Pecc, i was only semi-joking around.  I really want millions of dollars, and if
that does it, then I'll start my planning :)

(Peccavimus/84123) Trusting a Llewellyn book. That's your first mistake. They pub...

Peccavimus@rss.iscabbs.com — Wed, 04 May 2011 19:03:00 -0500

Trusting a Llewellyn book.  That's your first mistake.  They publish such
hacks.

(-- anonymous -- <>/84122) What's the spell to summon mortals? I found this spell in a Lle...

Wed, 04 May 2011 19:00:13 -0500

What's the spell to summon mortals?  I found this spell in a Llewellyn book,
but it requires having to go out to a crossroads in the middle of nowhere and
whenever I cast it, I get this creepy mortal who carries a pitchfork and
carries a vase of blood and demands me to grant wishes.  I think the spell is
defective.

(-- anonymous -- <>/84121) Honestly, people, don't do this in the boonies. I got a flat ti...

Wed, 04 May 2011 18:30:13 -0500

Honestly, people, don't do this in the boonies.  I got a flat tire and taxis
can be expensive.  I -hate- trudging all the way out there!  I swear, don't
ever give Peccavimus your number.  Next thing you know, it'll be pasted all
over the restrooms in every new age shop in town!

(Giraffe/84120) If nothing else, you'll get an infection from wherever you extra...

Giraffe@rss.iscabbs.com — Wed, 04 May 2011 17:45:00 -0500

If nothing else, you'll get an infection from wherever you extracted the blood
from your body.  Better to just say "Beetlejuice" three times.

(Peccavimus/84119) Boonies are preferable. Ideal is a crossroad where a murderer w...

Peccavimus@rss.iscabbs.com — Wed, 04 May 2011 16:59:00 -0500

Boonies are preferable.  Ideal is a crossroad where a murderer was hanged, but
you gotta make do in modern times.

The vase can be quite small, as long as the pitchfork fits in it.

(And I'm technically showing you how to summon Exu to strike a deal with him;
he's not exactly Satan, although he is associated with Lucifer in Condomble.
By the way, I feel constrained to point out that although I know you're just
kidding around to kill time, doing the ritual I describe will actually
accomplish something.  You won't get lightning and the image of a goat in a
smoky cloud, because that's not hte way it works.  But you will get something)

(Mr Tinkertrain/84118) well jesus. I don't want to attract attention. How big of a va...

Mr Tinkertrain@rss.iscabbs.com — Wed, 04 May 2011 12:11:00 -0500

well jesus.  I don't want to attract attention.  How big of a vase?

does *any* crossroads work?  'cause I think I could find one way out in the
boonies

(Peccavimus/84117) Which Satan?

Peccavimus@rss.iscabbs.com — Wed, 04 May 2011 12:00:00 -0500

Which Satan?

You could consult the Dragon Rouge, which is the sine qua non of Satanic
grimoire magic.  Or you could try your hand at the Goetia, but "Satan" isn't
among the demons listed.

Folk-magic wise, it's really quite easy.  Find a crossroad and go there at
midnight with your contract already written up.  You will need a vase of your
own blood, a small metal pitchfork, some rum (for various reasons, 151 is
acceptable), and a cigar.  Pour the rum at the middle of the crossroad.  Fold
the contract in half toward you, then turn it 90 degrees counter clockwise and
fold it toward you again, then repeat.  Lay it under the vase of blood (you may
have to put a rock on it to weigh it down) and place the pitchfork in the blood
tines up.  Light the cigar and blow smoke around you in four directions,
turning counterclockwise.

The words you're supposed to speak to summon him are a bit hard to dig up, and
here's where you shoudl feel absolutely free to crib from the Dragon Rouge.
I'll leave it to your googlefu.

(Faunus/84116) Without blood sacrifice, the best you're going to do is summon S...

Faunus@rss.iscabbs.com — Wed, 04 May 2011 07:03:00 -0500

Without blood sacrifice, the best you're going to do is summon Stan.

He's not good with the Powerball but might hook you up with some scratch-off
numbers.

Ain't that right, Stan?

(Mr Tinkertrain/84115) not sure if this is "pagan" per se, but can anyone tell me how t...

Mr Tinkertrain@rss.iscabbs.com — Wed, 04 May 2011 07:00:00 -0500

not sure if this is "pagan" per se, but can anyone tell me how to invoke Satan?
If this is off topic, then please point to the right forum!

I want help winning the Powerball and am willing to sell my soul to Satan, but
I don't know the proper wording, etc.

I'd like the new-age version whre I can just talk, since I don't have access to
burn barrels, sheep, etc

(Hooligan/84114) That is beyond awesome, Faunus.

Hooligan@rss.iscabbs.com — Tue, 12 Apr 2011 09:18:00 -0500

That is beyond awesome, Faunus.

(Faunus/84113) "You gave that money to your CHURCH. Did your church ever burn a...

Faunus@rss.iscabbs.com — Tue, 12 Apr 2011 08:22:00 -0500

"You gave that money to your CHURCH. Did your church ever burn a perfect
hecatomb for us, John?  I never received one.  Did you, Hermes?..."

http://foo.ca/wp/chick-tract-satire/hellenic-chick/

(Mama K/84112) I don't know.........that's why I'm asking you guys!!

Mama K@rss.iscabbs.com — Sun, 27 Mar 2011 16:53:00 -0500

I don't know.........that's why I'm asking you guys!!

(Peccavimus/84111) Sure, why not. But what would be on it? Other than a link to m...

Peccavimus@rss.iscabbs.com — Sun, 27 Mar 2011 16:48:00 -0500

Sure, why not.  But what would be on it?  Other than a link to my blog, of
course.

(Mama K/84110 Forum Moderator) SFTD....feel free to post responses in the forum....ok, go!

Mama K@rss.iscabbs.com — Sun, 27 Mar 2011 15:32:00 -0500

SFTD....feel free to post responses in the forum....ok, go!

(Mama K/84109 Forum Moderator) From Announcements>:

Mama K@rss.iscabbs.com — Sun, 27 Mar 2011 15:32:00 -0500

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Mar 27, 2011 15:21 from Copper Lethe

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If yours does, please Mail> me.
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(Peccavimus/84108) Vanity. I agree with every bit of that but the very last word. ...

Peccavimus@rss.iscabbs.com — Sat, 26 Mar 2011 06:59:00 -0500

Vanity.  I agree with every bit of that but the very last word.  Change it to
"technology," and all my quibbles disappear.

(Vanity/84107) Medieval stories featuring dragons or unicorns are now regarded ...

Vanity@rss.iscabbs.com — Fri, 25 Mar 2011 20:46:00 -0500

    Medieval stories featuring dragons or unicorns are now regarded as
'fantastic', whereas those featuring elephants or camels are merely exotic; but
to the medieval European reader, all were simply accounts, fictional or
non-fictional, of real animals that he or she simply happened not to have seen,
because they didn't occur in the vicinity.
    Likewise, the medieval or even the Renaissance reader would not have
distinguished as different in *kind*, a recipe for how to prepare a love
philtre from a recipe for how to prepare a powerful and deadly toxin, or a
treatise on the healing powers of the jade-stone from a treatise on the
navigational powers of the lodestone.  Or, for that matter, instructions on how
to hold a conversation with certain angels from instructions on how to
construct a complex cryptographic cipher.  They were all examples of what were
held to be morally questionable but undoubtedly efficacious arts, or a we would
now say, 'sciences'.

(Gwynn/84106) On a similar note, I've argued for ages now that we think native...

Gwynn@rss.iscabbs.com — Fri, 25 Mar 2011 17:11:00 -0500

On a similar note, I've argued for ages now that we think native peoples make a
category mistake, but that's not true. I think category mistake is wrong, but
I've never gotten a better phrase for it. What I mean is, we go, wait, you said
you talked to the spirits yesterday, but that's not "real", like you building a
house last week is "real". So then we go, ah, these poor benighted fools don't
know what's real and what's not!

In other words, they can't distinguish categories like WE can, this thing's
real, this thing's a dream, that thing's a hallucination. But what I think is,
they know perfectly well that there's a difference between building a house and
doing shamanism and talking to the spirits. Hence, for instance, many South
American groups use of plants to induce different states of consciousness, as
we'd describe it.

But saying, this thing occurred like building a house, this occurred like a
dream, Etc., that's just not relevant to them. Because just like building a
house gets something done and is meaningful, talking to the spirits gets
something done and is meaningful. But because we, as Westerners, tend to
collapse things into the binary opposition of "real" and "!real", we assume
they're somehow mistaken. Which sort of reminds me of Pecc's latest posto n
belief, we think belief is totally important to magic. I think that's because
that somehow makes it "real" to Westerners, oh, it's this BELIEF I have, so
it's like doing psychology on me and stuff, I get that, neato!

(Peccavimus/84105) I actually wrote a paper arguing something similar in grad schoo...

Peccavimus@rss.iscabbs.com — Fri, 25 Mar 2011 16:47:00 -0500

I actually wrote a paper arguing something similar in grad school.  I argued
that, because in some NA American literature, people have visions, but that
visions are part of some NA cultures, it therefore is not magical realism but
just plain realism.  (Not Realism, with a capital R, of course)

(Gwynn/84104) 3. Semi-related anecdote:

Gwynn@rss.iscabbs.com — Fri, 25 Mar 2011 16:02:00 -0500

3. Semi-related anecdote:

There's a thing in literature called magical realism. Basically it's when a
vast chunk of the book is what we call "real", but suddenly a ghost shows up,
or you get a visit from your dead grandmother giving you advice, or she appears
on the TV during the moon landing, Etc. It shows up in a lot of Latin American
and Native American literature, IIRC it started to describe Latin American
lit., Pecc can feel free to correct me.

Well, I thought this was dumb, because it's basically saying, well, we don't
want to insult them, but it's not "real", because it's got that magic stuff in
it. So we have to make a new category for it now! So I told my Native American
lit teacher, I want to call my final paper "Magical Realism Sucks". She said go
ahead, so I did. Too bad I don't have it anymore, heh. But it always pissed me
off that, because we had "magic" or "the supernatural" showing up, not as a
horror/fantasy element, but just as part of people's every day lives, we had to
make some new category to describe that, because it violates our precious
notion of realism.

(Mama K/84103) Two!!

Mama K@rss.iscabbs.com — Fri, 25 Mar 2011 14:51:00 -0500

Two!!

(Bodhi Dharma/84102) Pecc> Well, if you do, you can consider at least one copy alread...

Bodhi Dharma@rss.iscabbs.com — Fri, 25 Mar 2011 14:49:00 -0500

Pecc> Well, if you do, you can consider at least one copy already sold.

(Peccavimus/84101) Well, there's precious few people who accuse me of being a fuzzy...

Peccavimus@rss.iscabbs.com — Fri, 25 Mar 2011 14:47:00 -0500

Well, there's precious few people who accuse me of being a fuzzy white light
bunny.  I really want to name my next book "Magic Without Bullshit."

(Bodhi Dharma/84100) toxic pentagrammata

Bodhi Dharma@rss.iscabbs.com — Fri, 25 Mar 2011 14:20:00 -0500

toxic pentagrammata
Apparently, the inverse square law of pentacles, when taken to it's furthest
extremes creates a toxic cloud which is antithema to everything that lives
except for white light fuzzy bunnies.

(Vanity/84099) I want to hear more about the toxic pentagrammata, please.

Vanity@rss.iscabbs.com — Fri, 25 Mar 2011 05:42:00 -0500

   I want to hear more about the toxic pentagrammata, please.

(Peccavimus/84098) Thanks, Bodhi. Glad you like it.

Peccavimus@rss.iscabbs.com — Thu, 24 Mar 2011 16:11:00 -0500

Thanks, Bodhi.  Glad you like it.

(Bodhi Dharma/84097) Pecc, I've been reviewing the web site you referenced above. I ...

Bodhi Dharma@rss.iscabbs.com — Thu, 24 Mar 2011 16:00:00 -0500

Pecc, I've been reviewing the web site you referenced above.  I like it, a lot.
It intrigues me.  Which surprises me because I thought I'd finally had a fatal
case of toxic pentagram exposure a -long- time ago.

(Giraffe/84096) Happy Equinox to all.

Giraffe@rss.iscabbs.com — Sun, 20 Mar 2011 13:37:00 -0500

Happy Equinox to all.

(Mama K/84095) I'm excited and just wanted to share....

Mama K@rss.iscabbs.com — Fri, 04 Mar 2011 15:53:00 -0600

I'm excited and just wanted to share....

When I lived near Roanoke, I was attending the Roanoke Metaphysical Chapel, the
local branch of United Metaphysical Chapels, which is HQ'ed in Roanoke.  LOVED
that church.  Found them through a couple folks I met at a pagan meetup, who
invited me to a mediumship class.  And never left, until I moved 4 hours away.

I just discovered there's a UMC chapel just over an hour's drive from where I'm
currently living.  From the looks of their website, they've got a larger
congregation than RMC, a well-developed education program (including Sunday
School), an excellent music program (with choir!), and a variety of community
outreach programs.

Y'all know where I"ll be Sunday morning  =)

(Mama K/84094) Seen on Facebook: Respect Pagans as they worship the ground you...

Mama K@rss.iscabbs.com — Mon, 28 Feb 2011 08:14:00 -0600

Seen on Facebook:  Respect Pagans as they worship the ground you walk upon.

(Peccavimus/84093) It has a good spam filter, and it is pretty reliable. It's also...

Peccavimus@rss.iscabbs.com — Mon, 28 Feb 2011 09:03:00 -0600

It has a good spam filter, and it is pretty reliable.  It's also easy to updte,
which is good because I'm a lazy shit.

(Giraffe/84092) On a tangential question, how do you like Wordpress as a blog ho...

Giraffe@rss.iscabbs.com — Mon, 28 Feb 2011 07:06:00 -0600

On a tangential question, how do you like Wordpress as a blog hosting site,
Peccavimus?  I'm planning on setting up a multi-writer blog and wondering how
Wordpress compares to, say, blogger.com. What aspects of Wordpress do you like
or dislike?  Thanks.

(Gwynn/84091) Is that still working? It's been broken in my live bookmark thin...

Gwynn@rss.iscabbs.com — Sun, 27 Feb 2011 22:10:00 -0600

Is that still working? It's been broken in my live bookmark thingy for ages
now. I was totally bummed when it happened. It's awesome. A tad ceremonial for
my taste at points, but eh, you can't have everything I guess. I kid actually,
even the ceremonial stuff is interesting, it's just not my thing. Of course, my
thing is getting stranger and stranger as time goes on, so there you go.

(Peccavimus/84090) The single best blog in regards to magic and pagan theology is p...

Peccavimus@rss.iscabbs.com — Sun, 27 Feb 2011 21:46:00 -0600

The single best blog in regards to magic and pagan theology is probably
http://pomomagic.wordpress.com/

It's written by a genius with a great body.

(Gwynn/84089) I should think about that. But as an animist, there's not a ton ...

Gwynn@rss.iscabbs.com — Sun, 27 Feb 2011 21:02:00 -0600

I should think about that. But as an animist, there's not a ton of go to
places, at least that I've found. There are a couple interesting articles here
and there, so if you're interested in that, let me know. But I don't know that
I've found a ton of sites. In fact articles might be pushing it. But I'm much
less about gods and such and more about spirits these days.

But that can get pretty vague. I mean, I'm talking something like, how does an
environment interact with you? If you're playing music in it for instance, how
does it affect that? That's sort of the stuff I've been getting into lately.
Interesting, but pretty obscure I think. And not all of it is from a pagan
perspective at all, in fact a lot of that is semi-electronic music, e.g.
environmental osunds and acoustic instruments are combined and manipulated
electronically, to a greater or lesser degree. But there is a philosophy behind
it. For instance:

http://www.23five.org/lchasse/index.html

In particular, the Otic Diaries. I'm working on something connecting voice,
sound, and soul, and I'll probably blog it soon, I'll post a link if anybody's
interested. He doesn't talk about animism at all, but I think it should be a
fairly obvious connection.

(Mama K/84088) Hey y'all......I'm looking to update the forum info's list of we...

Mama K@rss.iscabbs.com — Sun, 27 Feb 2011 20:58:00 -0600

Hey y'all......I'm looking to update the forum info's list of website, and
spark some discussion.  So talk to me!  (And each other, too!)

Currently in the forum info, there are 7 wiccan websites listed.  I know y'all
aren't all witches.  We need some variety in the FI.

So what blogs, websites, RSS feeds, etc. are you reading these days?  If you're
looking for info on other faith paths, where do you go?

(Mama K/84087) I hope you all have a blessed solstice!

Mama K@rss.iscabbs.com — Tue, 21 Dec 2010 00:02:00 -0600

I hope you all have a blessed solstice!

(Artemis/84086) No coven remotely in our area so we're on our own! We did a smal...

Artemis@rss.iscabbs.com — Mon, 01 Nov 2010 09:29:00 -0500

No coven remotely in our area so we're on our own! We did a small ritual feast
and a 24-hour alter in rememberance of my 2 old sons' father who died in June
2009. They were sad, but really enjoyed that we took the whole day to celebrate
him. I had some releases I needed to do, related to people who had passed on,
so I wrote letters to them, and later had a fire in our firepit outside, read
the letters and sent them up in the fire. Took the kids trick or treating, we
always use the time to talk about the history of the traditions of trick or
treat, and jack o lanterns etc. We didn't spend much time doing that though, it
was around 19 here last night and the kids got cold fast. Had a good time
though, and an all around lovely and complete day.I'm ready for the peace and
stillness of winter now.
How was yours, MamaK?

(Lammam P Yrruf/84085) I was at a community samhain for folks in our trad yesterday, th...

Lammam P Yrruf@rss.iscabbs.com — Sun, 31 Oct 2010 14:08:00 -0500

I was at a community samhain for folks in our trad yesterday, then vigiled that
night, helped a covenmate of mine put in  his storm windows, we have our
coven's samhain tonight (we're gathering soon to do a "day vigil" because
people work tomorrow.  I don't though.  I took the day as vacation and will be
preparing my home for the winter, sifting my compost and turning under the
garden.

(Mama K/84084) I'd like to wish you all a very blessed and happy Samhain. Anyo...

Mama K@rss.iscabbs.com — Sun, 31 Oct 2010 09:28:00 -0500

I'd like to wish you all a very blessed and happy Samhain.  Anyone have any
plans they'd like to share?

(Mama K/84083) Must be something in the air today....I've had 5 random people t...

Mama K@rss.iscabbs.com — Fri, 29 Oct 2010 18:57:00 -0500

Must be something in the air today....I've had 5 random people today ask me
completely out of the blue questions about my religious beliefs and/or
practices.  Only one asked about sex (though since that's a frequent topic of
conversation with him, it wasn't surprising), and one was only kidding when she
asked about virgin sacrifices and eye of newt.

(And before anyone says it, yes, I know, Halloween is this weekend, and it has
everyone thinking about witches.)

(Faunus/84082) Let no one say that witches (or those willing to dabble in witch...

Faunus@rss.iscabbs.com — Mon, 25 Oct 2010 22:18:00 -0500

Let no one say that witches (or those willing to dabble in witchcraft) have not
stepped up to do their patriotic duty.

http://www.life.com/image/ugc1017252/in-gallery/36172/putting-a-hex-on-hitler-1
941

http://bit.ly/cimKoM

(Mama K/84081 Forum Moderator) I'm travelling for a funeral this weekend, and don't know what k...

Mama K@rss.iscabbs.com — Fri, 22 Oct 2010 04:44:00 -0500

I'm travelling for a funeral this weekend, and don't know what kind of 'net
access I'm going to have.  I couldn't find a temp FM, so please, y'all, play
nice.  Blessed be.

(Artemis/84080) Nifty, thanks for the info and the link

Artemis@rss.iscabbs.com — Wed, 20 Oct 2010 08:29:00 -0500

Nifty, thanks for the info and the link

(Giraffe/84079) Here's a list of the current awards. Note that the awards are fr...

Giraffe@rss.iscabbs.com — Wed, 20 Oct 2010 08:10:00 -0500

Here's a list of the current awards. Note that the awards are from the various
churches/denominations, not the Boy Scouts themselves.
http://www.scouting.org/scoutsource/Awards/ReligiousAwards/chart.aspx

(Giraffe/84078) Basically, if you are willing to recite the Scout Oath and Law (...

Giraffe@rss.iscabbs.com — Wed, 20 Oct 2010 08:04:00 -0500

Basically, if you are willing to recite the Scout Oath and Law (and you're not
gay) you are welcome in Boy Scouts. There is no other religious test. So, if
you are willing to say "To do my duty to God and my country" and "A Scout is
reverent" then you're good.  There are religious awards from different faith
groups that Scouts may wear on the uniform.

(Artemis/84077) Does anyone know anything about Boy Scouts and pagan (or even ot...

Artemis@rss.iscabbs.com — Wed, 20 Oct 2010 07:59:00 -0500

Does anyone know anything about Boy Scouts and pagan (or even other, Muslim
etc) religions? I knew they didn't allow gays to be leaders and members. But
they have the same policy for atheists, and I'm wondering if that applies to
anyone not Christian or truly just atheists. I'm not a leader of any sort nor
am I planning to be, but I'm Wiccan and I don't particularly hide that I am (I
certainly don't advertise it, carrying a wand and wearing robes to boy scouts
or anything, lol) I do have jewelry and a tattoo that sometimes is visible. It
just made me curious if anyone knows if their policy truly is only "atheists"
or do they deem anyone non-Christian to be atheist?

(Mama K/84076) Good call.

Mama K@rss.iscabbs.com — Tue, 19 Oct 2010 22:32:00 -0500

Good call.

(Peccavimus/84075) This is why I tell my publisher, "no human figures on the covers...

Peccavimus@rss.iscabbs.com — Tue, 19 Oct 2010 16:34:00 -0500

This is why I tell my publisher, "no human figures on the covers of my books,
just abstract designs."

(Faunus/84074) Don't for a moment imagine those are HIS children.

Faunus@rss.iscabbs.com — Tue, 19 Oct 2010 15:47:00 -0500


Don't for a moment imagine those are HIS children.

Those are his prey.

Whoever's children they are, didn't keep a close enough eye on them.

(Giraffe/84073) I think Witchcraft Dad also eats his children.

Giraffe@rss.iscabbs.com — Tue, 19 Oct 2010 15:46:00 -0500

I think Witchcraft Dad also eats his children.

(Faunus/84072) WITCHCRAFT DAD WILL EAT YOUR SOUL.

Faunus@rss.iscabbs.com — Tue, 19 Oct 2010 15:43:00 -0500


WITCHCRAFT DAD WILL EAT YOUR SOUL.

http://tinyurl.com/2u9dd9d

(Hooligan/84071) http://wulfila.nfshost.com/blog/?p=3756

Hooligan@rss.iscabbs.com — Sat, 21 Aug 2010 13:20:00 -0500

http://wulfila.nfshost.com/blog/?p=3756

(Hooligan/84070) Update:

Hooligan@rss.iscabbs.com — Sat, 21 Aug 2010 12:17:00 -0500

Update:

The glass casing of the yantra cracked during baggage handling, and upon
removing the image I discovered still more (Tamil) magical inscriptions on the
obverse.  I'll try to scan and post later.

(Hooligan/84069) I can't read the Tamil either - the script is more difficult tha...

Hooligan@rss.iscabbs.com — Wed, 18 Aug 2010 01:56:00 -0500

I can't read the Tamil either - the script is more difficult than even Sanskrit
and I've never had a good opportunity to study it.  I'll set some people on it
if you'd like.

(Peccavimus/84068) I don't recognize the geometry, and can't read the Tamil. Can y...

Peccavimus@rss.iscabbs.com — Tue, 17 Aug 2010 12:45:00 -0500

I don't recognize the geometry, and can't read the Tamil.  Can you
transliterate it, perhaps?  Then I could see if it's transliterated Hebrew or
somethig.

(Hooligan/84067) http://wulfila.nfshost.com/blog/?p=3741

Hooligan@rss.iscabbs.com — Tue, 17 Aug 2010 10:30:00 -0500

http://wulfila.nfshost.com/blog/?p=3741

Talisman I picked up in a market in Tamil Nadu.  Insight appreciated.

(Lammam P Yrruf/84066) Isaac Bonewitz passed away on Thursday, after a long battle with...

Lammam P Yrruf@rss.iscabbs.com — Sat, 14 Aug 2010 10:32:00 -0500

Isaac Bonewitz passed away on Thursday, after a long battle with colon cancer.
Isaac was a beloved elder, who brought much by way of reason and insight to
the practices of modern druidry and wicca.  He was a magician, a scholar, and
a skeptic, whose writings provided guidance to responsible spirituality /and/
to clarity in the wider community as to the nature of pagan religions.  He was
a forward-thinking community leader, reaching out to law enforcement to help
them understand the difference between minority religions and abusive cults.
His Cult Danger Evaluation Frame, published in response to the Jim Jones
Temple tragedy of 1978, has for 30 years been a basic tool for educators,
counselors, and law enforcement to understand what potential dangers may be
seen in an unfamiliar faith group.

All modern pagans owe Isaac our gratitude and honor for the guidance, support,a
and wisdom he has brought us.  May he ever be blessed.

(Artemis/84064) Happy Litha (soon) to everyone. This year is quite special to me...

Artemis@rss.iscabbs.com — Sun, 20 Jun 2010 21:48:00 -0500

Happy Litha (soon) to everyone. This year is quite special to me because for
the first time since I "became" Wiccan, I get to celebrate Litha with my Wiccan
sister (my real life sister as well.) She recently moved back, and she took the
next couple of days off so that we can canoe and spend the day together. Hope
you are all enjoying the coming solstice. I just notied the other day, that
winter solstice has a full lunar eclipse, shouldn't be an interesting day!

(Gwynn/84063) On the off chance that anybody knows, anybody have any good reco...

Gwynn@rss.iscabbs.com — Thu, 03 Jun 2010 22:54:00 -0500

On the off chance that anybody knows, anybody have any good recommendations for
books on sound and magic/paganism?  I can find assloads of ooo it uses a
singing bowl and here's some vague half-remembered thing I read once, but I'm
looking for something more serious.  What got me thinking about this is an
interesting question, well I think it's interesting, anyway.

Pretty much every shamanic culture sings.  There are other sounds of course,
instruments, icaros can be whistled and so on, but pretty much, they sing.
There's Hindu mantra of course but that explanation is a bit too intellectual
for my tastes and I already know it.  It seems that singing/music, sound
secondarily and more abstractly, is ... I don't want to say THE way to
communicate with spirits, but a very priveleged one.  I'd kind of like to know
why.  Surely SOMEBODY'S done something with this?  It's too ubiquitous not to
have been touched on somewhere.

Of course, I don't imagine that there's one single explanation.  Tuvans, and
other more or less related cultures, seem to suggest that the spirits are
pretty much like people, in the words of Monty Python, "O 'e like a good tune!"
 They enjoy music, they enjoy a properly told/sung story or epic, etc.  I know
of one Mexican culture, the Tarahumara, who believe the primary cause of
sickness is unhappiness, so they sing to people to make them happy again.  So
far we're making an association of singing == joy, but I don't want to suggest
that this is the whole deal, particularly on two examples, heh.

This is a pretty big field, we can expand it to get into shamanic drumming,
jew's harp playing, and then there's the really fascinating stuff, spirit
voices.  Two examples should suffice.  In an area of New Guinea, they have
these giant bamboo flutes, like six feet long.  They have no holes and work on
overtones, and are played at least in pairs.  The two flutes alternate,
sometimes things accompany them, slit drums, singing, shell rattles, that sort
of thing.  The flutes represent the voices/cries of spirits.  I don't kow
anything about the spirits, unfortunately, I ahven't been able to track
anything down on that.  I think for me the obvious association would be birds,
but that's just me.  For the second example, I quote from the liner notes of
Voices of the World, sorry for the weirdness, it went through OCR.

13. COTE D'lVOIRE [Dan]
Blomba, Biankouma sub-prefecture
- Voice of the Geeglu mask, "Multiple mask".
- This mask expresses itself through the sound of sacred instruments : three
stone whistles and an earthenware pot in which a fourth musician blows and
sings. This pot serves as amplifier and resonator. A fifth man sings in a
tightly guttural voice (fry, at 0'37 and 0'47), characteristic of this type of
mask. The accompaniment is produced by profane musical instruments
CD II - TECHNIQUES (CONT.)    147
(rattle and pellet-bells of white-iron). See the sonagram, fig. 9.
- According to  the  traditional  religious conceptions of the Dan, the masks
(gee) are  beings   of supernatural  power.   The Geeglu, one of the most
powerful masks, is in the category of "denuded masks" (gee kpan) which only
manifest themselves oy the voice, and seeing them is forbidden to women and
non-initiated boys.

Of course there's probably something to be said for the non-writing
explanation, writing might contribute to a more visual representation of
things, but that's too simple I think.  I can't help thinking somebody's
tackled this sort of thing somewhere.

(Artemis/84062) I second as well, we might not get it right, or even most of the...

Artemis@rss.iscabbs.com — Tue, 01 Jun 2010 11:10:00 -0500

I second as well, we might not get it right, or even most of the time, but at
least our hearts are in the right place, and our noses as well.
Also, I am a dirty smelly pagan this morning, and I should do something about
that before my husband gets home for lunch!

(Peccavimus/84061) If that wasn't clear, I meant that to be an apology for my past ...

Peccavimus@rss.iscabbs.com — Mon, 31 May 2010 17:39:00 -0500

If that wasn't clear, I meant that to be an apology for my past snootiness.

(Gwynn/84060) I'll second that in a major way.

Gwynn@rss.iscabbs.com — Mon, 31 May 2010 17:34:00 -0500

I'll second that in a major way.

(Peccavimus/84059) I complain about my co-religionists a lot. Philosophically naiv...

Peccavimus@rss.iscabbs.com — Mon, 31 May 2010 17:26:00 -0500

I complain about my co-religionists a lot.  Philosophically naive, poorly read,
uncritical, lacking in social skills, and often delusional.

But let me say: I love you guys, you dirty smelly pagans who cobble together
bits and pieces and try to find a spirituality in what other dead cultures have
thrown away.  You silly, wacky, odd, and sometimes mentally unstable weirdos.
I love you.

Because you're not fundamentalists.  Because, other than occasional tirades
against Christians, you're not bigots.  Because you accept all the weird,
outcast, and queer.  Because you're really trying.  And becaues you do, as best
you can, no harm.

Here's to pagans: our flaws are annoying, but at least they're rarely downright
evil.

(Lammam P Yrruf/84058) I don't put a lot of stock in healing magic, but a prayer or dan...

Lammam P Yrruf@rss.iscabbs.com — Tue, 25 May 2010 20:05:00 -0500


I don't put a lot of stock in healing magic, but a prayer or dance for Isaac
certainly can't hurt:

Subject: MOON: /|\ PAGAN ALERT! Call to a Rolling Tunder

Please join us!

A CALL TO CREATE A ROLLING THUNDER

Phaedra Bonewits has put out a healing request for her husband, Isaac
Bonewits (teacher, elder and author of many Craft classics, including
Real Magic). Isaac has been fighting colon cancer for quite some time
now, and has undergone several rounds of chemotherapy.

Unfortunately, he has progressed to the point where he is just not
strong enough to survive another round of chemo. His doctor has told
them that Isaac needs a miracle.

Therefore, Phaedra would like the magical community to kick in the magic
and do a "rolling thunder" healing ritual on the night of the Full Moon,
May 27th at 9pm.

A "rolling thunder" ritual, for those who have not ever participated in
one, creates an effect like a global rolling thunderstorm. The basic
idea is simply that you do the ritual based on your own magickal
traditions at 9 pm, in your own local time zone.

Therefore, the East coast does it at 9 o'clock Eastern; central does it
at 9 Central; 9 for those in the Mountain time zone; and yes, 9 o'clock
local time for those in the Pacific time zone. The energies roll from
one time zone to another.

As for what healing and magical techniques are used, Phaedra does not
care. Her only other request, outside of it being done at 9 pm local
time is that you use the following chant to link the energies raised:
"Isaac's tumors fade away. Thirty more years with Phae."

WHEN: On the night of the Full Moon, May 27, 2010, at 9:00P.M. in your
time zone

HOW: Create a healing ritual within your tradition and that is joined
with the rising energies with this chant:

"Isaac's tumors fade away. Thirty more years with Phae."

THEN: It will comfort Isaac and Phaedra to know when your ritual is
done. Let them know: phaedra@neopagan.net

WHY IT MATTERS:
Isaac Bonewits is one of North America's leading experts on ancient and
modern Druidism, Witchcraft and the rapidly growing Earth Religions movement.

A practicing Neopagan priest, scholar, teacher, bard, and polytheologian
for over 35 years, he has coined much of the vocabulary and articulated
many of the issues that have shaped the rapidly growing Neopagan
community in the United States and Canada, with opinions both playful
and controversial.

As the author of several books including Real Magic, Authentic
Thaumaturgy, Witchcraft, Neopagan Rites, and The Pagan Man, numerous
articles, reviews and essays, many songs and albums, and
"spellbinding" lectures, he has educated, enlightened and entertained
two generations of modern Goddess worshippers, nature mystics, and
followers of other minority belief systems, and has explained these
movements to journalists, law enforcement officers, college students,
and academic researchers.

Isaac is the Founder and Archdruid Emeritus of r nDra!ocht Fin: A
Druid Fellowship (the best known Neopagan Druid organization based in
North America), a 3x Druid within the United Ancient Order of Druids
(the best known Mesopagan Druid order), a retired High Priest in both
the Gardnerian ("British Orthodox") and the N.R.O.O.G.D. ("California
Heterodox") traditions of Wicca (Neopagan Witchcraft), an initiate of
Santeria (Afro-Cuban Mesopaganism) and the "Caliphate Line" of the Ordo
Templi Orientis (Aleister Crowley's Mesopagan magical tradition), as
well as a member of other Neopagan and Mesopagan Druid orders.

He has been a member of the Covenant of Unitarian Universalist Pagans
(CUUPS) for three years. Having survived four previous spouses (and vice
versa), on July 23, 2004 he was handfasted to CUUPS co-founder, tarot
expert, writer, and Wiccan Priestess, Phaedra Heyman Bonewits (hope
springs eternal).

Articulate, witty, yet scholarly, Isaac is currently writing books on
Druidism, Witchcraft, Neopaganism, dualism, and polytheology.

Isaac wishes it officially known that he is not "A Pagan Spiritual
Leader," but merely one of the Neopagan movement's better-known
Unindicted Co-conspirators...

Folks, Isaac has given much to magickal communities the world over. We
can certainly give this gift back to him. Please forward this to your
tribes and Circles.

May the Goddess weave this miracle on his behalf.
Blessings,
- Beth Owl's Daughter

(Lammam P Yrruf/84057) YOu in seminary?

Lammam P Yrruf@rss.iscabbs.com — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 19:25:00 -0500

YOu in seminary?

(DaAfrican/84056) There are altars throughout my school. No one seems to have a pr...

DaAfrican@rss.iscabbs.com — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 07:32:00 -0500

There are altars throughout my school. No one seems to have a problem.

(Peccavimus/84055) Why is my life not sufficiently "dark and violent?" I signed up...

Peccavimus@rss.iscabbs.com — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 16:18:00 -0600

Why is my life not sufficiently "dark and violent?"  I signed upf ro dark and
violent, and instead I get suburban and professorial.  Ahh, well, I think I've
grown to prefer that.  I must be a Christian now.

(Knight Of Shadows/84054) Sounds like the school is being fairly responsible, though, even...

Knight Of Shadows@rss.iscabbs.com — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 12:06:00 -0600

Sounds like the school is being fairly responsible, though, even if the student
body is being a bit reactionary.

(Gwynn/84053) Man, I was all set to go, well at least he's being fair if he's ...

Gwynn@rss.iscabbs.com — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 10:44:00 -0600

Man, I was all set to go, well at least he's being fair if he's nailing
everybody for it.  Then he had to have that bit at the end about how it's
witchcraft, ewwwwwh!

(Hooligan/84052) http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=20103...

Hooligan@rss.iscabbs.com — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 09:57:00 -0600

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=20103020372

Wiccan altar puts teacher, officials at odds

By LEE ROOD - lrood@dmreg.com - March 2, 2010

Guthrie Center, Ia. - A high school senior's desire to build a Wiccan altar in
shop class has forced a community debate about free expression.

Dale Halferty, who has taught industrial arts at Guthrie Center High School for
three years, was placed on paid leave Monday after he acknowledged to district
officials that he told the student he could not build the altar in class.

"This is not a beef that I have with the district. It's not me against them,"
said Halferty, who has been an educator for much of the past 20 years. "But
this kid was practicing his religion during class time, and I don't agree."

Halferty said he previously told another student he could not build a cross in
shop class because he believes in the separation of church and state. "I don't
want any religious symbols in the shop," he said.

His viewpoint: "We as Christians don't get to have our say during school time,
so why should he?"

School officials say Christians actually do get to express themselves in the
same way.

More than one school policy, as well as state and federal law, prohibit
discrimination against students who express religious beliefs through school
assignments.

Superintendent Steve Smith and Principal Garold Thomas said they placed
Halferty on leave while they conferred with the school's attorney to decide
what to do.

Both Smith and Thomas said the incident has become emotional for the high
school's 185 students: Almost 70 signed a petition late last week saying they
didn't want witchcraft practiced at the school.

"I think it's fear based on some of the old ideas people had about witchcraft,"
Smith said. "It's fear and a lack of knowledge about the unknown."

Neither Smith nor school officials identified the student at the center of the
controversy, and the boy's father declined a request made through Thomas to be
interviewed.

Smith acknowledged that some people have expressed fears about satanism or
sacrifices.

He said they too could use some educating: Though Wicca is often subject to
such myths, it is nonviolent and based on a shared reverence for the Earth and
all living things.

Halferty was sent home for the first time Friday and told to think about what
he was doing.

He said he had no beef with the student or his project - until the student told
him he was a practicing witch.

"I said, 'Ah, you're kidding, right?'"

When the student said he wasn't, Halferty told him he could work on his project
- a table that would become the altar - provided he kept religious materials at
home.

However, he said, the student kept returning to class with a book of
witchcraft.

Halferty said he thought about it, and decided allowing the student to make the
altar "was wrong on every level."

"It scares me. I'm a Christian," he said. "This witchcraft stuff - it's
terrible for our kids. It takes kids away from what they know, and leads them
to a dark and violent life. We spend millions of tax dollars trying to save
kids from that."

But Smith said school policies prohibit teachers from denying students access
to varying points of view without just cause, and prohibit employees from
denying students participation in activities on the grounds of race or
religion.

The U.S. Department of Education has written guidelines for public school
districts to ensure students' First Amendment rights are protected.

Ben Stone, executive director of the Iowa Civil Liberties Union, said the clash
appears to be a simple case of religious discrimination. All students, he said,
have the right to religious freedom and to be treated equally in school.

Stone said: "The teacher may have good intentions. It's a learning process. But
he needs to respect that students can exercise their religious viewpoints
within the context of an assignment."

(Peccavimus/84051) It's already written. I'm just holding it hostage until it's fu...

Peccavimus@rss.iscabbs.com — Fri, 05 Feb 2010 23:24:00 -0600

It's already written.  I'm just holding it hostage until it's funded.  :)

You do need to log on, but it's a simple process.  If you can buy thing from
Amazon, you can donate.

It's about 30 pages in MS.  Not sure what that'll come to in chapbook form; I
haven't laid it out yet.

(Gwynn/84050) Couple questions, is this thing written? Do you have to login t...

Gwynn@rss.iscabbs.com — Fri, 05 Feb 2010 23:04:00 -0600

Couple questions, is this thing written?  Do you have to login to contribute?
I'm a bit confused if this is essentially donating to pay you for writing the
interesting work we'll get to read, or donating to pay for you to write the
interesting work we want to read.  I'll be donating in either case, it sounds
really cool and I've been looking for something along these lines for a while
now.

(Peccavimus/84049) Ever notice that most pagan poetry sucks? Interested in learnin...

Peccavimus@rss.iscabbs.com — Fri, 05 Feb 2010 22:05:00 -0600

Ever notice that most pagan poetry sucks?  Interested in learning a few tricks
and techniques to writing good (or better) pagan poetry?

Then ransom my article at Kickstarter, and I'll put it up for free download on
my website.  Donate enough, and I'll print out a chapbook bound version of it
for you.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1338972389/the-pagan-and-magicians-poetic-h
andbook

http://tinyurl.com/y9p86ow

(Peccavimus/84048) Blessed Imbolc.

Peccavimus@rss.iscabbs.com — Tue, 02 Feb 2010 21:54:00 -0600

Blessed Imbolc.
Light a candle.

(DC Ten/84047) Neo-Pagans Get Worship Circle At Air Force Academy

DC Ten@rss.iscabbs.com — Mon, 01 Feb 2010 20:00:00 -0600


Neo-Pagans Get Worship Circle At Air Force Academy

Story here: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,584500,00.html

(Peccavimus/84046) hehehe. "What covers you is 'a terrible mess at work involving ...

Peccavimus@rss.iscabbs.com — Fri, 22 Jan 2010 15:45:00 -0600

hehehe.  "What covers you is 'a terrible mess at work involving conflicting
priorities.'  What crosses you is 'an unforseen expense involving home
ownership."  It'd be like doing readings with fortune cookies.

Or maybe it'd be more like this:  http://www.cracked.com/article/18349_if-tarot
-cards-actually-predicted-future-5Bcomic5D/

http://tinyurl.com/yf9ykdn

(Steppenwolf/84045) Wild. I was hoping it would be transparent as in "Telling you e...

Steppenwolf@rss.iscabbs.com — Fri, 22 Jan 2010 15:41:00 -0600

Wild.  I was hoping it would be transparent as in "Telling you exactly what it
meant," because that's the frame I've been using the word with lately.

But that does seem cooler.  Though a literal Tarot would be kind of funny.  All
text.

(Peccavimus/84044) I just ordered a new toy! It hasn't arrived yet, but I'm excite...

Peccavimus@rss.iscabbs.com — Fri, 22 Jan 2010 15:39:00 -0600

I just ordered a new toy!  It hasn't arrived yet, but I'm excited (no, this
post doesn't belong in Kama Sutra).

The Transparent Tarot:

http://www.aeclectic.net/tarot/cards/transparent/

(Vanity/84043) So what about these star wars, and the "wounded welkin"? I don'...

Vanity@rss.iscabbs.com — Thu, 21 Jan 2010 11:21:00 -0600

   So what about these star wars, and the "wounded welkin"?  I don't know any
myths like that -- though it reminds me of William Blake, "when the stars threw
down their spears/ and watered heaven with their tears".
   The verses seem not so much mad as pregnant with vatic utterance, like the
sayings attributed to oracles and bards.

(Gwynn/84042) spoilsport! Although I gotta say, not losing in love is a prett...

Gwynn@rss.iscabbs.com — Wed, 20 Jan 2010 21:55:00 -0600

spoilsport!  Although I gotta say, not losing in love is a pretty groovy side
benefit, so yeah.  Oh yeah, the shepherd embraced by the moon is supposedly
Diana, the moon, and Endimion(sp?).